2012
April 2008 
The Regenetics Method on "Making-It-All-Click!"
Posted on Mar 29th, 2008
by 
David
David
INTERVIEW WITH AUTHOR SOL LUCKMAN BY PHARMACIST & MEDICAL INTUITIVE BRYAN FLOURNOY ON "MAKING-IT-ALL-CLICK!"
[Note: The following transcription has been edited for length and clarity.]
BRYAN FLOURNOY: Hello everyone! Thank you once again for tuning in. This is Bryan Flournoy on "Making-It-All-Click!" Today I'm very happy to be interviewing a healer in alternative energy medicine by the name of Sol Luckman. How are you, Sol?
SOL LUCKMAN: I'm good. How are you, Bryan?
BRYAN: Pretty good. Everyone, I met Sol in the Zaadz community online. Before we get started with this very intriguing interview regarding his modality, I'd like to read a little introduction about him from his Zaadz profile page: "'Human law is not the same as Sacred Law,' write Jamie Sams and David Carson in Medicine Cards. 'More so than any other medicine, Crow sees that the physical world and even the spiritual world, as humanity interprets them, are an illusion. There are billions of worlds. There are an infinitude of creatures. Great Spirit is within all.'" One of the first things I wanted to ask Sol was, Why the choice of the crow as an animal in your totem?
SOL: Well, Crow is my principle totem animal. When I was ill with a chronic autoimmune illness over a decade ago, I left graduate school and the hardcore world of left-brain academics and went on kind of a vision quest. I came West to seek healing, met Crow in my journey, and have been accompanied by that energy ever since.
BRYAN: Now, you came out West intentionally for a vision quest healing? Does that mean you were spiritual or metaphysically-minded before developing Regenetics?
SOL: I came out to study with an energy healer who had healed himself of chronic fatigue syndrome, which was what I imagined I had. His approach involved a lot of qigong. I'd experienced some positive benefits working with him when I first met him, but I was going on faith. I didn't necessarily think of it as a vision quest as I embarked on it, but it certainly was that.
BRYAN: How long did it take for you to transition or transmute your reality such that you're the healthy, vital person you are today?
SOL: That was in 1998 when I spent about a year out West being very committed to qigong, which got me back on my feet. After that I taught literature for a couple of years. At the end of the second year of teaching, my health broke down again. Though qigong had gotten me back on my feet, I still hadn't been able to get at the root cause of what was going on. So I spent a couple of years understanding the root cause doing various other energetic modalities such as NAET and BioSET, two allergy elimination techniques, and I actually learned a version of BioSET and offered that for about a year while still trying to heal myself. It was the end of that process that Potentiation, the first DNA activation of the Regenetics Method, came through. That was the turning point for me. I was feeling very much better after about six months, but I continued to detox and strengthen over another couple of years.
BRYAN: Did you make any dietary changes? Did you use any detoxification methods such as supplements?
SOL: I'd done this type of thing during my nearly decade-long illness a lot. My food allergies were so severe I couldn't eat anything but meat and unseasoned vegetables. Potentiation encouraged a tremendous amount of detoxification. I wouldn't have dared try to push it with supplements or other energetic modalities. In fact, my partner Leigh and I spend a lot of our time encouraging clients going through the Method to consider stopping doing things, as opposed to doing things.
BRYAN: Are you speaking of Potentiation of DNA as a specific stamp or program, and was that defined at the time you discovered it, or was it a process of discovery as you experienced your own self-healing?
SOL: Great question. It's one I've been thinking about a lot as I've been putting together a second book on the Method. I'm wanting to tell the story of this journey of discovery through the Regenetics Method and our own healing. In answer to your question ... Potentiation was very much a process. I thought I was probably dying and feel that I would have died, had I not discovered this work--or rather, had it not come through me. I was given spiritual guidance, for lack of better words, to go to South America with Leigh. I remember saying goodbye to my parents and family not knowing if I would see them again. It was during that trip that we received the linguistic codes for Potentiation and began implementing them, first on ourselves and then, about six months later, with other people.
BRYAN: Amazing! So when did DNA become part of your focus?
SOL: That became a very important part of what we were doing while I was still offering allergy elimination. At that time these techniques involved using little homeopathic vials holding a vibratory signature, an energy signature. For example, an allergen. You could hand someone a vial and muscle test the person to see if they had a strong or weak response. That would indicate whether they were having an allergic response to that substance; the allergy clearing itself involved doing light massage mostly on the back to stimulate an aspect of the acupressure meridian system to reset the nervous system's response to the allergen. There are various kinds of allergy elimination techniques: NAET, BioSET, JMT, and many other derivatives--some of which have evolved (if I can use that word) to use computer software to do the work as opposed to doing it manually. Leigh and I bought lots of vials for DNA, nucleotides, RNA, RNA-binding enzymes and everything in the world as we were learning more about DNA in general and the "ener-genetics" of DNA in particular. Then we began doing a lot of muscle testing with ourselves and our clients to understand how DNA was being impacted by various substances, such as vaccines and genetically modified foods, and in turn what DNA was doing to contribute to disease states on an energetic level.
BRYAN: What did you conclude regarding DNA's practical involvement in day-to-day physiology? What was your impression in light of what happens when people have allergic reactions? What did you derive DNA's interaction to be from an energetic standpoint?
SOL: It's a bit of a complicated situation because we discovered that not everyone is energetically the same. So with that as a caveat, I'll say that it became very clear that a lot of autoimmune illnesses--under that category I include chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, multiple chemical sensitivity, all the way up to AIDS--involve damaged DNA. With kinesiological testing, it was obvious that a major contributing factor in damaging DNA--actually reprogramming DNA from a repair enzyme into a disrepair enzyme--is vaccines. I'd go so far as to say that vaccines are the principle cause of most autoimmune conditions. If you're looking for etiology, there's an entire other way we could look at this. We could talk about the emotional body and people's willingness to get sick or even their need to get sick, in order to transcend or to move to another level personally. Certainly for me, I was in a field I didn’t particularly like (academics). I'm a person with much more artistic leanings and felt that part of me being squelched--and for me, illness became a way out, a way of reinventing my life. Not that it was easy and I certainly empathize greatly when people are going through that experience, but I know from hundreds of stories that have been shared with me that there are many people who see illness as an opportunity.
BRYAN: Do you feel that you do some shaman work along with some physical medicine?
SOL: I can't see any distinction between the two. If we accept that everything is based on energy templates, then doing energy work is doing physical work.
BRYAN: So do you consider yourself a healing facilitator, a practitioner, or more someone who instructs so others can self-heal?
SOL: I like the question. Leigh and I call ourselves Facilitators--not healers, practitioners, or doctors. For those who want it and perhaps feel they need it, we help jumpstart a self-healing potential that operates at the genomic level. We emphasize that the actualization of healing in a given individual is ultimately the individual's responsibility--and mostly, it's their responsibility at an attitudinal level. We find that nothing supports the healing process like people being in joy and creativity, spending time with people they love, laughing, etc., and that nothing shuts it down like judgment, skepticism, and fear. Actually, this is very much supported by some recent DNA research. There's a scientist named Glen Rein who looked at the way emotions either "decompress" or "compress" the DNA molecule. When we're in expanded states of consciousness emotionality, our DNA expands kind of like an accordion and RNA can access DNA healing codes because it can get in the crooks, crevices, and crannies. When we're in fear, when we we're judgment, self-judgment included (that's a big one), when we're in shame, then we contract our own DNA and limit our ability to self-heal.
BRYAN: Right! That's one of the interesting ideas I picked up when I was researching you--that you talk about the authentic expression of DNA. How would you define DNA's authentic expression?
SOL: That's not exactly a phrase I've used, though I think I may know what you're getting at. Even mainstream science admits that DNA is incredibly malleable. You have transposons that can hop to different chromosomal locations. Bruce Lipton's research very clearly shows that DNA is malleable to belief, that it's malleable to consciousness. Yet there's this idea that DNA is this monolithic thing because it's apparently really old. That's relativistic. I feel that DNA is essentially a piece of hardware or software, depending on how you want to look at it, and that it's designed to evolve. The true expression of DNA is to evolve.
BRYAN: Yes, its true expression is to evolve. When you have people coming to you either for instruction or to initiate self-healing, what kinds of initiations do you help facilitate? What tools do you use to get someone centered and be ready to expand their awareness?
SOL: The basic tools we use are radio and light waves. What is being called "wave-genetics" or "electrogenetics" is an emerging form of genetic science that is repeatedly showing that DNA can be evolved, transmuted, stimulated or activated by radio and light waves--specifically, radio and light waves keyed to human language frequencies. For example, the Gariaev group in Russia and another scientist who worked with Gariaev named Vladimir Poponin, as well as a Chinese scientist, have been using this technology. As you can imagine, this is pretty suppressed stuff. These people have been able to show that you can take a human sentence--such as "Be healed, chromosome!"--and translate it into radio and light waves that DNA can understand. Then when this translated sentence is "beamed" at a damaged chromosome, it will immediately heal.
BRYAN: How do you centralize or localize this application such that it's a message that can be received? The majority of our cells have their own copy of cellular DNA and cells are dying and being born and DNA is being damaged and repaired continuously. How do you actually apply energies such that general cells all get the same message and start cooperating?
SOL: Humans work holographically. The latest research on the brain, extending that into the electromagnetics of DNA and the nervous system, shows that everything is happening simultaneously. Energetically, we effectiveluy have a parallel-processing operating system. So what you're asking about isn't a problem. The real issue is what sounds do you make (radio waves), what thoughts do you think (light waves) to tell the system it's okay to begin releasing the toxicity and trauma that you are storing and that is killing you, in order to invite the body to tap into its own healing ability? The answers to these questions, from a Regenetics perspective, came to us on a highly intuitive level. We were actually "given" the idea of sound codes that could work genetically. An early realization we had that came out of some of our kinesiology was that the five vowels correspond to the five nucleotides of DNA and RNA. So when you use the vowels, you're stimulating the nucleotides directly. There's a lot of cosmology behind this that we could talk about--the basic idea being that in the beginning was the Word and the universe was spoken or sung into existence. Based on our research, it was sung into existence by inserting consonants which break up the flow of vowels. For us, linguistically speaking, that is the beginning of duality, separation, or the Fall. By using all vowels again to speak to the DNA, which has the memory of all of its past, including its "pre-history," you're encouraging DNA to go back to its original template, its pre-Fall template of health, vitality, and divinity.
BRYAN: Do you feel that you're encouraging a positive change of molecular DNA by way of its composition, or its behavior and the way that it interacts?
SOL: Our observation, or our conjecture, is that you're first changing the energy templates behind DNA. David Wilcock's research pretty much concludes that DNA is created by a form of energy he calls torsion energy. Torsion energy spins like DNA and was first identified by a scientist named Eli Cartan back in 1913. The Russians in the 1990s alone authored about 5,000 papers on the subject of torsion energy. It appears that torsion energy is the closest energy that is in any sense measurable that could be also called consciousness. This energy spins DNA into being. It underwrites, underlies, undergirds the DNA template. Really, we're getting into the energy body here, the lightbody. You begin working at the energetic level to change the alchemical templates behind the biochemistry. We believe that this begins to create physiological, biochemical changes. We've had clients report some very strange things. This is anecdotal, not a scientific evaluation. But we've had a number of clients report changes in overall posture, handedness, and even eyesight. As in from left to right eye, right to left hand. Our initial thought was that, well, you know how DNA is this twisted ribbon ...
BRYAN: Yeah.
SOL: ... with a backup copy. The "front" part is the operational copy and is what gets damaged by vaccines, by genetically modified foods, and that kind of thing. The backup copy we surmise isn't damaged. It's possible that the first thing that happens after the alchemical moment is that DNA changes around the ribbon and starts operating off the backup copy, so that it can begin undoing the toxicity and trauma that it allowed into the body when it became a disrepair molecule.
BRYAN: Very interesting! Let me ask you, what have you come to understand happens to DNA when a vaccine is introduced and the result is that the DNA is damaged?
SOL: I'm going to simplify this because it's a very complex question you're asking. When you look at the situation purely energetically, there are certain "ring-pass-nots" in some people, who don't get damaged by vaccines because they have a different energy structure. Other people get damaged because the energy structure doesn't have these ring-pass-nots. For those people who get damaged, what happens is that the reverse transcriptase enzyme, the reverse-writing enzyme found in the RNA parts of the monkey viruses, cow leukemias and everything in the world found in almost all of today's vaccines, are "written up" into the genetic code. So the genetic code, if you think of it as a bar code, is literally changed by the insertion of new bars or proteins into the code. It begins carrying out different functions just like a changed bar code would.
BRYAN: Exactly! Actually, that's kind of how genetic mutation occurs. We call it biotechnology, when we reprogram microorganisms like E. coli to create synthetic human insulin ...
SOL: We know it happens in the microorganism world. Biotechnology happens there all the time, but many people are in denial, especially mainstream medical science, that genetic mutation can happen in humans as a result of vaccines. But why? There's a biologist named Elisabet Sahtouris we published a couple of times in our free ezine DNA Monthly. She wrote a book called Living Systems in Evolution and has done a lot of research basically comparing human evolution to the evolution of bacterial colonies.
BRYAN: Oh, really!
SOL: Yeah, it's fascinating. Some of her observations are just so keen. One of her points is that mutational insertions into the genome happen constantly at the microorganismic level--and may possibly be happening in humans in well. She's really making a point that such insertions could play a role in greater human evolution, but she isn't tying them into vaccines per se. Back to this whole idea that illness can be a crisis but also an opportunity ... If someone inserts a bunch of junk into your DNA and you have to transcend it, you're going to come out on the other end at a much higher level of mastery in consciousness.
BRYAN: You're right. Exactly. It's interesting to take a step back into her concept, comparing human and bacterial evolution. Bacteria are single-cell organisms, but they come together as a colony. When you view them as a group and their genetic activity as a colony, then it makes their DNA expression more sophisticated--much like ours--complex organisms made up of different single cells that are highly differentiated ... On the other hand, that's how bacteria become resistant to antibiotics.
SOL: Absolutely. She's pointing out how bacteria literally, in these colonies that are essentially cities, create homes, subdivisions, roads, waste removal, etc. There's a specific defense or immune response that bacteria have that they turn off when they come into the colony. So they actually appear to be a little more advanced than we are in some ways because they can coexist peacefully.
BRYAN: That's what I was going to say: they can create harmony quite successfully with their level of consciousness. And you're right, who's to say who is more evolved consciously or organically? What do most people ask of you for healing or to get their Regenetics process started? What can they expect from you to initiate it--instruction, interaction, or advice?
SOL: Nexus New Times is a publication out of Australia you're probably familiar with. They did a really nice review of our book Conscious Healing about a year ago. They called it "a paradigm-reworking book" and this one of the areas where it's definitely a paradigm-reworking book. We love when people come to us and have already read the book or at least our website. That's very helpful because it introduces the new paradigm. One of the main aspects of the new paradigm is that we're completely stepping away from the diagnostic model. Diagnosis, etymologically, means "to read through" in order to gain a higher knowledge or gnosis, but diagnosis has become in this culture a kind of death sentence in many instances. When we perform a Potentiation session for someone, we're essentially always doing the same thing--that is, activating the self-repair mechanism and initiating a bioenergetic recalibration. Diagnosis doesn't play a role in what we do. In fact, basing our position on a lot of studies that have shown that if you don't have attachment as a healer, you're a better healer, we often don't even want to know what's going on with our clients. This keeps us from having that very human tendency to say, "This person has a really serious problem. I hope we can help them!" That's attachment and right there you lose healing power based on a number of double-blind studies.
BRYAN: Lovely. But how do you begin teaching? First of all, can you tell me a little bit about some of the courses, because one of the things I wanted to know is what you consider your main interaction with people? How do you get your information out and how does this information impact people? How one-on-one are you?
SOL: At this point, we have a dozen or so Facilitators in three or four countries. In addition to distance healing, they also perform the work for people who choose to experience it in person. We spend a lot of time interacting with our clients and in training. We're really fortunate to have been doing this for several years now and to have a fairly well-established international clientele. A lot of times we're contacted via email to set up a session. We have scheduling materials designed to help orient people.
BRYAN: What are these materials like?
SOL: First of all, we agree on a time that works for both parties for the 30-minute session. We get an RSVP on that before moving forward. We talk a little bit about intention, setting intention, and working with intention. There really aren't any "don'ts" as long a
BRYAN FLOURNOY: Hello everyone! Thank you once again for tuning in. This is Bryan Flournoy on "Making-It-All-Click!" Today I'm very happy to be interviewing a healer in alternative energy medicine by the name of Sol Luckman. How are you, Sol?
SOL LUCKMAN: I'm good. How are you, Bryan?
BRYAN: Pretty good. Everyone, I met Sol in the Zaadz community online. Before we get started with this very intriguing interview regarding his modality, I'd like to read a little introduction about him from his Zaadz profile page: "'Human law is not the same as Sacred Law,' write Jamie Sams and David Carson in Medicine Cards. 'More so than any other medicine, Crow sees that the physical world and even the spiritual world, as humanity interprets them, are an illusion. There are billions of worlds. There are an infinitude of creatures. Great Spirit is within all.'" One of the first things I wanted to ask Sol was, Why the choice of the crow as an animal in your totem?
SOL: Well, Crow is my principle totem animal. When I was ill with a chronic autoimmune illness over a decade ago, I left graduate school and the hardcore world of left-brain academics and went on kind of a vision quest. I came West to seek healing, met Crow in my journey, and have been accompanied by that energy ever since.
BRYAN: Now, you came out West intentionally for a vision quest healing? Does that mean you were spiritual or metaphysically-minded before developing Regenetics?
SOL: I came out to study with an energy healer who had healed himself of chronic fatigue syndrome, which was what I imagined I had. His approach involved a lot of qigong. I'd experienced some positive benefits working with him when I first met him, but I was going on faith. I didn't necessarily think of it as a vision quest as I embarked on it, but it certainly was that.
BRYAN: How long did it take for you to transition or transmute your reality such that you're the healthy, vital person you are today?
SOL: That was in 1998 when I spent about a year out West being very committed to qigong, which got me back on my feet. After that I taught literature for a couple of years. At the end of the second year of teaching, my health broke down again. Though qigong had gotten me back on my feet, I still hadn't been able to get at the root cause of what was going on. So I spent a couple of years understanding the root cause doing various other energetic modalities such as NAET and BioSET, two allergy elimination techniques, and I actually learned a version of BioSET and offered that for about a year while still trying to heal myself. It was the end of that process that Potentiation, the first DNA activation of the Regenetics Method, came through. That was the turning point for me. I was feeling very much better after about six months, but I continued to detox and strengthen over another couple of years.
BRYAN: Did you make any dietary changes? Did you use any detoxification methods such as supplements?
SOL: I'd done this type of thing during my nearly decade-long illness a lot. My food allergies were so severe I couldn't eat anything but meat and unseasoned vegetables. Potentiation encouraged a tremendous amount of detoxification. I wouldn't have dared try to push it with supplements or other energetic modalities. In fact, my partner Leigh and I spend a lot of our time encouraging clients going through the Method to consider stopping doing things, as opposed to doing things.
BRYAN: Are you speaking of Potentiation of DNA as a specific stamp or program, and was that defined at the time you discovered it, or was it a process of discovery as you experienced your own self-healing?
SOL: Great question. It's one I've been thinking about a lot as I've been putting together a second book on the Method. I'm wanting to tell the story of this journey of discovery through the Regenetics Method and our own healing. In answer to your question ... Potentiation was very much a process. I thought I was probably dying and feel that I would have died, had I not discovered this work--or rather, had it not come through me. I was given spiritual guidance, for lack of better words, to go to South America with Leigh. I remember saying goodbye to my parents and family not knowing if I would see them again. It was during that trip that we received the linguistic codes for Potentiation and began implementing them, first on ourselves and then, about six months later, with other people.
BRYAN: Amazing! So when did DNA become part of your focus?
SOL: That became a very important part of what we were doing while I was still offering allergy elimination. At that time these techniques involved using little homeopathic vials holding a vibratory signature, an energy signature. For example, an allergen. You could hand someone a vial and muscle test the person to see if they had a strong or weak response. That would indicate whether they were having an allergic response to that substance; the allergy clearing itself involved doing light massage mostly on the back to stimulate an aspect of the acupressure meridian system to reset the nervous system's response to the allergen. There are various kinds of allergy elimination techniques: NAET, BioSET, JMT, and many other derivatives--some of which have evolved (if I can use that word) to use computer software to do the work as opposed to doing it manually. Leigh and I bought lots of vials for DNA, nucleotides, RNA, RNA-binding enzymes and everything in the world as we were learning more about DNA in general and the "ener-genetics" of DNA in particular. Then we began doing a lot of muscle testing with ourselves and our clients to understand how DNA was being impacted by various substances, such as vaccines and genetically modified foods, and in turn what DNA was doing to contribute to disease states on an energetic level.
BRYAN: What did you conclude regarding DNA's practical involvement in day-to-day physiology? What was your impression in light of what happens when people have allergic reactions? What did you derive DNA's interaction to be from an energetic standpoint?
SOL: It's a bit of a complicated situation because we discovered that not everyone is energetically the same. So with that as a caveat, I'll say that it became very clear that a lot of autoimmune illnesses--under that category I include chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, multiple chemical sensitivity, all the way up to AIDS--involve damaged DNA. With kinesiological testing, it was obvious that a major contributing factor in damaging DNA--actually reprogramming DNA from a repair enzyme into a disrepair enzyme--is vaccines. I'd go so far as to say that vaccines are the principle cause of most autoimmune conditions. If you're looking for etiology, there's an entire other way we could look at this. We could talk about the emotional body and people's willingness to get sick or even their need to get sick, in order to transcend or to move to another level personally. Certainly for me, I was in a field I didn’t particularly like (academics). I'm a person with much more artistic leanings and felt that part of me being squelched--and for me, illness became a way out, a way of reinventing my life. Not that it was easy and I certainly empathize greatly when people are going through that experience, but I know from hundreds of stories that have been shared with me that there are many people who see illness as an opportunity.
BRYAN: Do you feel that you do some shaman work along with some physical medicine?
SOL: I can't see any distinction between the two. If we accept that everything is based on energy templates, then doing energy work is doing physical work.
BRYAN: So do you consider yourself a healing facilitator, a practitioner, or more someone who instructs so others can self-heal?
SOL: I like the question. Leigh and I call ourselves Facilitators--not healers, practitioners, or doctors. For those who want it and perhaps feel they need it, we help jumpstart a self-healing potential that operates at the genomic level. We emphasize that the actualization of healing in a given individual is ultimately the individual's responsibility--and mostly, it's their responsibility at an attitudinal level. We find that nothing supports the healing process like people being in joy and creativity, spending time with people they love, laughing, etc., and that nothing shuts it down like judgment, skepticism, and fear. Actually, this is very much supported by some recent DNA research. There's a scientist named Glen Rein who looked at the way emotions either "decompress" or "compress" the DNA molecule. When we're in expanded states of consciousness emotionality, our DNA expands kind of like an accordion and RNA can access DNA healing codes because it can get in the crooks, crevices, and crannies. When we're in fear, when we we're judgment, self-judgment included (that's a big one), when we're in shame, then we contract our own DNA and limit our ability to self-heal.
BRYAN: Right! That's one of the interesting ideas I picked up when I was researching you--that you talk about the authentic expression of DNA. How would you define DNA's authentic expression?
SOL: That's not exactly a phrase I've used, though I think I may know what you're getting at. Even mainstream science admits that DNA is incredibly malleable. You have transposons that can hop to different chromosomal locations. Bruce Lipton's research very clearly shows that DNA is malleable to belief, that it's malleable to consciousness. Yet there's this idea that DNA is this monolithic thing because it's apparently really old. That's relativistic. I feel that DNA is essentially a piece of hardware or software, depending on how you want to look at it, and that it's designed to evolve. The true expression of DNA is to evolve.
BRYAN: Yes, its true expression is to evolve. When you have people coming to you either for instruction or to initiate self-healing, what kinds of initiations do you help facilitate? What tools do you use to get someone centered and be ready to expand their awareness?
SOL: The basic tools we use are radio and light waves. What is being called "wave-genetics" or "electrogenetics" is an emerging form of genetic science that is repeatedly showing that DNA can be evolved, transmuted, stimulated or activated by radio and light waves--specifically, radio and light waves keyed to human language frequencies. For example, the Gariaev group in Russia and another scientist who worked with Gariaev named Vladimir Poponin, as well as a Chinese scientist, have been using this technology. As you can imagine, this is pretty suppressed stuff. These people have been able to show that you can take a human sentence--such as "Be healed, chromosome!"--and translate it into radio and light waves that DNA can understand. Then when this translated sentence is "beamed" at a damaged chromosome, it will immediately heal.
BRYAN: How do you centralize or localize this application such that it's a message that can be received? The majority of our cells have their own copy of cellular DNA and cells are dying and being born and DNA is being damaged and repaired continuously. How do you actually apply energies such that general cells all get the same message and start cooperating?
SOL: Humans work holographically. The latest research on the brain, extending that into the electromagnetics of DNA and the nervous system, shows that everything is happening simultaneously. Energetically, we effectiveluy have a parallel-processing operating system. So what you're asking about isn't a problem. The real issue is what sounds do you make (radio waves), what thoughts do you think (light waves) to tell the system it's okay to begin releasing the toxicity and trauma that you are storing and that is killing you, in order to invite the body to tap into its own healing ability? The answers to these questions, from a Regenetics perspective, came to us on a highly intuitive level. We were actually "given" the idea of sound codes that could work genetically. An early realization we had that came out of some of our kinesiology was that the five vowels correspond to the five nucleotides of DNA and RNA. So when you use the vowels, you're stimulating the nucleotides directly. There's a lot of cosmology behind this that we could talk about--the basic idea being that in the beginning was the Word and the universe was spoken or sung into existence. Based on our research, it was sung into existence by inserting consonants which break up the flow of vowels. For us, linguistically speaking, that is the beginning of duality, separation, or the Fall. By using all vowels again to speak to the DNA, which has the memory of all of its past, including its "pre-history," you're encouraging DNA to go back to its original template, its pre-Fall template of health, vitality, and divinity.
BRYAN: Do you feel that you're encouraging a positive change of molecular DNA by way of its composition, or its behavior and the way that it interacts?
SOL: Our observation, or our conjecture, is that you're first changing the energy templates behind DNA. David Wilcock's research pretty much concludes that DNA is created by a form of energy he calls torsion energy. Torsion energy spins like DNA and was first identified by a scientist named Eli Cartan back in 1913. The Russians in the 1990s alone authored about 5,000 papers on the subject of torsion energy. It appears that torsion energy is the closest energy that is in any sense measurable that could be also called consciousness. This energy spins DNA into being. It underwrites, underlies, undergirds the DNA template. Really, we're getting into the energy body here, the lightbody. You begin working at the energetic level to change the alchemical templates behind the biochemistry. We believe that this begins to create physiological, biochemical changes. We've had clients report some very strange things. This is anecdotal, not a scientific evaluation. But we've had a number of clients report changes in overall posture, handedness, and even eyesight. As in from left to right eye, right to left hand. Our initial thought was that, well, you know how DNA is this twisted ribbon ...
BRYAN: Yeah.
SOL: ... with a backup copy. The "front" part is the operational copy and is what gets damaged by vaccines, by genetically modified foods, and that kind of thing. The backup copy we surmise isn't damaged. It's possible that the first thing that happens after the alchemical moment is that DNA changes around the ribbon and starts operating off the backup copy, so that it can begin undoing the toxicity and trauma that it allowed into the body when it became a disrepair molecule.
BRYAN: Very interesting! Let me ask you, what have you come to understand happens to DNA when a vaccine is introduced and the result is that the DNA is damaged?
SOL: I'm going to simplify this because it's a very complex question you're asking. When you look at the situation purely energetically, there are certain "ring-pass-nots" in some people, who don't get damaged by vaccines because they have a different energy structure. Other people get damaged because the energy structure doesn't have these ring-pass-nots. For those people who get damaged, what happens is that the reverse transcriptase enzyme, the reverse-writing enzyme found in the RNA parts of the monkey viruses, cow leukemias and everything in the world found in almost all of today's vaccines, are "written up" into the genetic code. So the genetic code, if you think of it as a bar code, is literally changed by the insertion of new bars or proteins into the code. It begins carrying out different functions just like a changed bar code would.
BRYAN: Exactly! Actually, that's kind of how genetic mutation occurs. We call it biotechnology, when we reprogram microorganisms like E. coli to create synthetic human insulin ...
SOL: We know it happens in the microorganism world. Biotechnology happens there all the time, but many people are in denial, especially mainstream medical science, that genetic mutation can happen in humans as a result of vaccines. But why? There's a biologist named Elisabet Sahtouris we published a couple of times in our free ezine DNA Monthly. She wrote a book called Living Systems in Evolution and has done a lot of research basically comparing human evolution to the evolution of bacterial colonies.
BRYAN: Oh, really!
SOL: Yeah, it's fascinating. Some of her observations are just so keen. One of her points is that mutational insertions into the genome happen constantly at the microorganismic level--and may possibly be happening in humans in well. She's really making a point that such insertions could play a role in greater human evolution, but she isn't tying them into vaccines per se. Back to this whole idea that illness can be a crisis but also an opportunity ... If someone inserts a bunch of junk into your DNA and you have to transcend it, you're going to come out on the other end at a much higher level of mastery in consciousness.
BRYAN: You're right. Exactly. It's interesting to take a step back into her concept, comparing human and bacterial evolution. Bacteria are single-cell organisms, but they come together as a colony. When you view them as a group and their genetic activity as a colony, then it makes their DNA expression more sophisticated--much like ours--complex organisms made up of different single cells that are highly differentiated ... On the other hand, that's how bacteria become resistant to antibiotics.
SOL: Absolutely. She's pointing out how bacteria literally, in these colonies that are essentially cities, create homes, subdivisions, roads, waste removal, etc. There's a specific defense or immune response that bacteria have that they turn off when they come into the colony. So they actually appear to be a little more advanced than we are in some ways because they can coexist peacefully.
BRYAN: That's what I was going to say: they can create harmony quite successfully with their level of consciousness. And you're right, who's to say who is more evolved consciously or organically? What do most people ask of you for healing or to get their Regenetics process started? What can they expect from you to initiate it--instruction, interaction, or advice?
SOL: Nexus New Times is a publication out of Australia you're probably familiar with. They did a really nice review of our book Conscious Healing about a year ago. They called it "a paradigm-reworking book" and this one of the areas where it's definitely a paradigm-reworking book. We love when people come to us and have already read the book or at least our website. That's very helpful because it introduces the new paradigm. One of the main aspects of the new paradigm is that we're completely stepping away from the diagnostic model. Diagnosis, etymologically, means "to read through" in order to gain a higher knowledge or gnosis, but diagnosis has become in this culture a kind of death sentence in many instances. When we perform a Potentiation session for someone, we're essentially always doing the same thing--that is, activating the self-repair mechanism and initiating a bioenergetic recalibration. Diagnosis doesn't play a role in what we do. In fact, basing our position on a lot of studies that have shown that if you don't have attachment as a healer, you're a better healer, we often don't even want to know what's going on with our clients. This keeps us from having that very human tendency to say, "This person has a really serious problem. I hope we can help them!" That's attachment and right there you lose healing power based on a number of double-blind studies.
BRYAN: Lovely. But how do you begin teaching? First of all, can you tell me a little bit about some of the courses, because one of the things I wanted to know is what you consider your main interaction with people? How do you get your information out and how does this information impact people? How one-on-one are you?
SOL: At this point, we have a dozen or so Facilitators in three or four countries. In addition to distance healing, they also perform the work for people who choose to experience it in person. We spend a lot of time interacting with our clients and in training. We're really fortunate to have been doing this for several years now and to have a fairly well-established international clientele. A lot of times we're contacted via email to set up a session. We have scheduling materials designed to help orient people.
BRYAN: What are these materials like?
SOL: First of all, we agree on a time that works for both parties for the 30-minute session. We get an RSVP on that before moving forward. We talk a little bit about intention, setting intention, and working with intention. There really aren't any "don'ts" as long a